if we have Asian admixture it would probably be higher. Also in the study you can see a digram of the YAP+ Marker. (Agree) There is a very small percentage of Arabs and other ethnic groups (called the Banadiir, Bantu, etc) living within Somalia and that identify as Somali and their families have lived within Somalia for centuries. E3b, E1 and others are present in low amounts there from the same ancient date, and can be dated entering Spain about 20k ago. You're obviously mentally challenged and fail to stay on topic. hi i am somalian i have read your comment and would like to clarifie something.please send me email if you are still available.thanks. The haplotype diversity of eight Y-STRs (‘minimal haplotype’) was 0.9575 compared to an average of 0.9974 and 0.9996 in European and Asian populations. Not these Ancestry tests. – Pepi. – the parent of the little group you’ve listed was North African, and it’s an absolute crock of crap that they are calling Southern Europeans Somalid. J1 is less than 3% in the native HOA population; Somali, Oromo, Afar & Saho populations. The Genetic affinity never dies until the lineage itself dies. Yes, initially the topic had absolutely nothing to do with AAs, but. These people moved southwards into Ethiopia, then Somalia. Both V13 and v12 brach of from m78, like brothers, with m78 being the father. The frequency of the clade E3b was 81.1%, including 77.6% of the haplogroup E3b1 defined by the M78 mutation. However must light skin somalians clam something they r not. Mathide is serving us the western ethnocentrist view. Proponents of the view that Puntites were from African have recognized that the Puntites were not black Africans. Somewhat overwhelming when I was simply surfing for info on what it is to be “Somali”. No. Also i was looking at the ISOGG chart and I am unable to find a reference for a mutation called M125 (is that a typ0?) ^ I also recently saw a slide that showed the Siwa Berbers of Egypt to have 65% V6? 1996a, 1998a, 1998b; Kidd et al. Hollywood isn't the only place with rich and wealthy men. Just want to add – Latifa brings up Yemen. Interesting article, although I am not to fond of using the words eurasian or caucasoid when speaking of East African ancestry. It is among the farmers of the riverine areas and the traders of the coastal towns you see greater variability in features. “What is your exact hg? One book is “Daily life of the Nubians.” Punt has been actually named as being int Asia and they called the Puntites sand dwellers (Arabs). I’m from East Africa andwe are the most “genetically diverse”. Somali’s are known to be one of the purest people in the world. Modern human tool assemblages under and above the Toba ash in India. If you have a difference source that says other wise thanks in advanced. M1 is Asian in origin; get over it, two seperate studies by different people have come to the same conclusion, and not one geneticist currently publishing has felt the need to comment onthat conclusion negatively. You probably believe the San and east Africans are mixed because they aren't as black skinned as you want them to be. They like lies, just like Stormfront. Those DARK SKIN black Americans largely don't hail from Africans but i know that's hard for you to get through your narrow mind. M78 shows a population movement into the horn not from it. They were never colonized unlike other African countries. How modern Americans would describe someone really isn’t that relevant; BTW most of the EU would call the average southern Egyptians ‘mixed race’. Overall, Somali are about 1/3 West Eurasian (people from near East/Europe) or so I’ve worked out. Now Racially – If you place these people in Nigeria, they will fit right in with us. Look at their DNA studies. this brings me to my next point if somalis are 80% east african i wud assume you meant that this is nilotic as they are indigenous to this region. M2 = E1b1a FRIDAYFOSTER, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:07 PM I have a image I’m yet to post with the clinal variation along the Nile that’s a good example of the change from N to S. I’ll post it to the front of the blog…Predynastic lower Egyptians all come pretty close to modern upper Egyptians to, there hasn’t been much immgration into the area. You’d need to see some kind of evidence for mass input of different SSA Y chromsomes at about the date M81 appeared to say ‘it’s got an affinity to Ethiopia. Pingback: The Birth of the Caucasian Race « Robert Lindsay. “I don’t really care what a pop. I am not denying that ancient Egypt had different racial admixtures because it did over time BUT essentially the Southern Egyptian that we see today and that TV never likes to show represent how the majority of ancient Egyptians prior to racial mixing used to look and they always have been historically what many in America would view as ‘black’ –even today Egyptians are referred to colloquially in Arabic as the dark ones. In your British eurocentric mind although just about every people group on the planet has “straight” hair, it is all “Euro-type” hair to you. Can you tell me the other genes In a somali in terms of percentage. and the 15% is probably Arab, not European. Same test with Berbers show (12,500BC~20,000BC), Arab-Israeli E1b1b is only found in fraction of them & its mixed sometimes M78 sometimes M34, so its harder to test some are as close as the Greeks/Somalis some are as far as the Berbers. There is only one M35 Marker. It’s preposterous to claim part Caucasoid ancestry because of 40% M1 haplogroup which is believed to have come to the horn 40,000 years ago. My father’s family originates from Guinea (in W. Africa) and are part of the very small Peuhl tribe. Why or why not? Baby ellie wakes buddy up, just to take their place. lets say you are correct and punt land is not located in Somalia but how do you explain the language that consist of both Arabian pagan gods like Wad and mostly Egyptian gods for example like Ra, Amun, Horus and plane usage of primary words. Eurocentric could be defined as ‘anything that observes Eurasian ancestry in black Africans then Osman. And East Asian hair isn’t mainly Caucasian type. I’ve often wondered why Somalis have more Euro-type hair than Ethiopians. neander Even an entirely European group would have dark skin after living in Africa 20,000 years. the expansion seems to have come from nubia/Egypt orginally, Below are the HOA natives that preserved their tongue & genetic integrity: My point here is Somali’s are quite diverse in looking and what I’m reading from comments is the typical Somali look that some stereotype as the nation’s 3 everyone looks like a tend to generalize. Which is why you should be wary of any idiot that tries to claim greeks ect have a lot of black ancestry on the basis of an E named Y chr that hasn’t seen a sub Saharan male ancestor in about 30k. To the rest of your statement in that first paragraph, you're off topic sis. Based on History of Migrations, Genetics and skin color. Hello mathilda37 EDIT: As some people sometimes claim, Somalis are not mixed with Arabs. “Phylogeographic Analysis of Haplogroup E3b (E-M215) Y Chromosomes Reveals Multiple Migratory Events Within and Out Of Africa” (Page 5), (E3b/M215………….E3b1/M35) Everyone’s different. ( Log Out /  Agree with you Donna. I think evniviroment also influence the body to adapt and after few generations it become standard for example to see tall Somalis with skinny body which was good for their daily life of livestock and moving around. I paid for my whole DNA journey & I did long research on this its my personal information. Your BS would mean All East asians should have caucasoid skulls too. Are Somalis Black African and Ancient Egyptians Non-Black African and as such the Somalis should have been painted with dark black coloring in comparison to Egyptians? The last two population inflows into North Africa were from the near East, Berber culture really has a lot more to do with that, and so do Berber’s genetics. The haplogroup E3b1 with the rare DYS19-11 allele (also called the E3b1 cluster ) was found in 75.1% of male Somalis, and 70.6% of Somali … E3b1=M35 = Ethiopia Somalia has nothing do with with Berbers at all, genetically or culturally. Another thing to consider is Southern Egypt had to be relatively Homogeneous to have such Pure groups migrating FROM Southern Egypt/Northern Sudan. Our mtdna is quite varied but mainly haplogroup M and various other haplogroups such as pre-hv etc but no Bantu mtdna. . Egyptian were euro asian ?! HI GUYS! To say, we got our looks from ancient European and Asian ancestors is utter bullocks. We have very little Eurasian ancestry and Sub-Saharan Africans ancestry is the domintant gene. Sorry I am never to sure about the gene test from Europeans unless it backed up and agreed by black scholars. You puzzle me, and scare me slightly too. I am tall, light skined, straight hair, almost straight nose. And I suppose there is some study that shows that East Africans are genetically closer to Europeans than West Africans? View Entire Discussion (1 … Outside of Africa there are populations who are also “Black” by definition of Color and some by what we would typically see of African features: Skin color, hair, facial features. Did life not begin in the Horn of Africa? Funny how none of you get upset when upper Egyptians and modern nubians (who have the same haplotypes) are described as part Eurasian in ancestry. Is the election poll worker Trump slandered on tape going to sue him for slander? Hello people interesting topic, well I am Somali and I’ve always had a concept from parents, family members and other Somalis ever since I can remember that we are different from certain other african countries, I always thought that we are a unique group (until I found out about the Ethiopians and the Eritreans lol), people in my high school and various other place say that Somalis are not Black, I’ve thought about this and I can understand how our features are not like other black people say in west,central and sourthern Africa. Matilda in response to your comments: to Igbo Examples of such variants include the y-chromosomal haplogroup E1b1b and mitochondrial haplogroup M1. This was really interesting to read, and gave me a slight idea about backgrounds and genetics. There are multiple images of them- some have fair hair and light skin. The donkey was used extensively in both Egypt and Nubia and I doubt that that donkeys have been in the Middle East since the 5th Dynasty when they were described as well as a Pygmy that was picked up in Yam (Below 3rd Cataract) on the way TO Punt. Therefor the Genetic tie between the founding Ethiopian-to-Egyptian populations is shorter than and closer than the founding Egyptian-to-Ethio/Somali population (This is of course if you believe that M35 represents an Ethiopic marker.). Exactly, Matt needs to tend to his own backyard before trying to comment on others. and what is Somalids ? I am not stating that Berbers come from Ethiopia. The M78 is from Egypt not the horn. The first non Africans hardly even looked like modern humans let alone have Caucasoid skull shapes. 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